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Old 09-10-06, 07:59 AM   #1
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Default The future just got much darker.

This morning north korea have successfully tested its first nuke,after been threatened by most of the world not do. Its on every news station now.
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This is sad news but reports i have read say they arnt in launch stages yet.
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Old 09-10-06, 09:38 AM   #3
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Yeah but USA and Britain will be up their arses soon enough. And if NK even show a sign of using one offensively they will cease to exist.
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This is sad news but reports i have read say they arnt in launch stages yet.
True but it would fit in something not much bigger than a Transit Van
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Old 09-10-06, 05:52 PM   #6
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Yeah but USA and Britain will be up their arses soon enough. And if NK even show a sign of using one offensively they will cease to exist.
Unfortunately, there is no Military solution that won't end in the deaths of millions of innocent civillians.

Land attack through S.korea, after negotiating 2.5mile wide landmine field (allthough US tanks can pass, field is digitally controlled) - N.Korea launches artillery barrage on S.Korean capital, millions die (an artillery battery is always aimed at S.Korean Capital)

Nuclear pre-emprive strike on Artillery Battery - S.Korea launches nuclear strikes against Japan, Russia, S.korea using mid-range missiles (previously tested in international waters off the coast of japan by N.Korea)

Nuclear strike on N.Korea - millions of civillians die, N.korea has a magnitude of tunnels etc. and Kim Jong is always protected.

Assasination attempt on Kim Jong - he is always protected, travels in a blast-proof train, always has a large number of elite guard. Iff attempt successfull, power vacuum left, Generals take over, worse situation. If attempt fails, N.Korea launches strikes agains neighbouring countries.


To put it bluntly, military intervention = millions of screwed people,
No Intervention - Millions of screwed people.
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Old 09-10-06, 07:35 PM   #7
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thanks for explaining that helios ,I dont thnk many people understand just how serious this situation is.
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Old 09-10-06, 07:49 PM   #8
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Apparently they don't... I heard this news on my lunch break today and promptly told all my co-workers, none of which seemed very concerned about the matter :S This is the most worrying news I've heard since GW decided to move in on Iraq. I mean, the US has agreed with Japan to fortify their missile defences surrounding the Korean Peninsula to prepare for what they fear is going to happen. Surprisingly no one seems to realise what kind of a sick Dictator Kim Jong Il is... For instance, in North Korea, media is under complete control by the government, there is no free press and no outside sources being fed into the country. All media outlets produce anti-western propaghanda that is force fed to young and old alike. They have a very low opinion of western culture and have no fear of nuclear retaliation. On a little side note, Kim Jong Il is also a paranoid, insecure, power-hungry midget with absolute control of a (now) nuclear power. It's a bleak future indeed........
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It will be interesting to see how the various posturings by leaders around the world will be translated into action (if any).

It is also interesting that even the Chinese, who are very close allies of the North Koreans, have also condemned the action since all the other countries of the world have stopped and banned nuclear testing. it's definitely a provocative act to let off a bomb.
The most that the rest of the world can do (without nuking all of NK and causing a lot of problems related to that!) is to shut off all aid and trade with N.K. - which probably won't bother them much I suppose, but it may make them realise that their actions will have consequences.

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I dont think China,Japan and South Korea would want sanctions imposed on North Korea as they dont want millions of North Koreans fleeing into there country, as their country is as over populated as it is.
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Yeah but USA and Britain will be up their arses soon enough. And if NK even show a sign of using one offensively they will cease to exist.

Nuclear pre-emprive strike on Artillery Battery - S.Korea launches nuclear strikes against Japan, Russia, S.korea using mid-range missiles (previously tested in international waters off the coast of japan by N.Korea)


Assasination attempt on Kim Jong - he is always protected, travels in a blast-proof train, always has a large number of elite guard. Iff attempt successfull, power vacuum left, Generals take over, worse situation. If attempt fails, N.Korea launches strikes agains neighbouring countries.
Considering the pre-emptive strike scenario (I take it you meant N. Korea launching a nuclear strike) - are NKs delivery systems advanced and reliable enough to hit countries such as Russia and Japan? We saw how NKs last missile tests went and if that sort of thing were to happen in a real war aggresive situation, Russia would loom over NK looking very angry lol

I agree with the Assasination thing, there would be a power vacuum and US would have to invade and install a new government (not that they don't know how lol)
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Old 10-10-06, 08:11 AM   #12
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Personally I wouldn't overly worry to much, yes they have had one test. But do they have enough enriched uranium to make more bombs. Are they capable of delivery systems. These are vital questions. Especially it was found out after the cold war that over half the Russian ICBMs were faulty and the other half may not have fired.

Don't be drawn in by the usual massive overmedia hype it just goes to try and keep this state of fear alive.
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Its 2 tests niow actually, they detonated a second device (under 1 killoton) the morning after the first test.

And yes, s.korea in the pre-emptive strike scenario of mine is a typo, meant to be N.Korea.
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